Brice / Bryce

The following is a  9 Generation preliminary report. Some of the data for earlier individuals came from research by Rhona Brice. I’m in the process of double checking all info. I was able to get a copy of a few of the Brice wills and therefore, definitely connect our family with this line.  Any sources that I was able to find myself are listed at the end of the report.

I only did 9 generations, up to the point where the information would start overlapping with other family lines that I already have posted

 

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Generation One

 

  1. John1 Brice, b. c. 1466, d. 1541 in Dinnington, Somerset, England. Son of William Brice b. c. 1436.

 

He was married to Joane Sandford.

 

Children:

  1.        i.     Peter2 Brice b. c. 1509.
  2.             Hugh Brice, b. 1520, d. post 1571.
  3.        iii.   Henry Brice.

 

 

Generation Two

 

  1. Peter2 Brice (John1), b. c. 1509, d. 1571 in Dinnington, Somerset, England.[i] Probate date of will was 2 Jul 1571

Brothers Hugh and Henry mentioned in his will.

 

He was married to Phillipa Polselowe, on c. 1539, d. post 1571.

 

Children:

  1.        i.     Hugh3 Brice b. c. 1540.
  2.             Florence Brice.

 

She was married to Stephen Pitts.

 

iii.   Joan Brice.

 

She was married to Adrian (alias Lyng) Godwyn.

 

  1. Henry2 Brice (John1), d. post 1751. Children mentioned in brother Peter’s will:

bequeath unto Peter Brice John Brice Katherine Brice Joanna Brice four of my brother Henry Brice children four pounds equally to be divided amongst them.

 

He was married to Mrs. Henry Brice.

 

Children:

  1.              Peter3 Brice.
  2.             John Brice.

iii.   Katherine Brice.

  1.            Joanna Brice.

 

 

Generation Three

 

  1. Hugh3 Brice (Peter2, John1), b. c. 1540, d. c. 1587. Marriage to Elizabeth Spencer is noted in the Visitation of 1623.

 

22 November 1571 :Escheator for one year.

Sources: Society of Genealogists – – Somerset Record Society Publication – Series of Volumes published by the society over a period of time – Volume 43 – Collecanea p227 – 1928 Escheator – a royal officer selected from among the landowners of Somerset and Dorset. Must have a landed estate worth 40 marks above all charges and reprises. Upon the death of a tenant-in-chief, the escheator would be instructed by a writ of diem clausit extremum (“he has closed his last day”, i.e. he is dead) issued by the king’s chancery, to empanel a jury to hold an “inquisition post mortem” to ascertain who the legal heir was, if any, and what was the extent of the land held. An escheator was entitled to certain fees but these were low and landowners were reluctant to hold the post so the tenure was limited to one year, – List of Escheators22 Nov 1571 …. Hugh BRICE esq.

 

He was married to Elizabeth Spencer. Elizabeth: Daughter of Richard Spencer of London.

 

Children:

  1.        i.     Hugh4 Brice b. 1568.
  2.             Peter Brice.

iii.   Phillipa Brice. Not sure if female Phillipa or male Phillip.

  1.            Ann Brice.
  2.             Elizabeth Brice.
  3.            Florence Brice.

vii.  Joan Brice.

viii. Jane Brice.

  1.            Margaret Brice.
  2.             Mary Brice.

 

 

Generation Four

 

  1. Hugh4 Brice (Hugh3, Peter2, John1), b. 1568, d. 1587. Marriage to Dorothy Worthington is noted in the Visitation of 1623.

 

28 June 1587 :        Court of Request Hugh JAMES alias PEARCE complaint against Hugh BRICE and Augustine WORTHINGTON defendants. Hugh Brice is recorded as deceased.

 

He was married to Dorothy Worthington, d. c. 1607. Dorothy: Daughter of Augustin Worthington of Worthington Hall in Lancashire.

 

Will of her father, AUGUSTINE WORTHINGTON 1 of Dynnington Somerset Will dated Apr 4 1599 proved May 1 1 1599 by Agnes the relict 40 Kidd My mansion house &c My wife son Thomas Smith My daughter Katherine My Robert Smith & my daughter Elizabeth his wife my daughter’s death to Worthington Brice Sir Anthony Gibbes esq & William Kellett Merchant Overseers

 

Dorothy’s second husband and children:

with George TRAVERS

 

M Adam TRAVERS ca 1594-

M John TRAVERS ca 1596-

M George TRAVERS ca 1598-

M Christopher TRAVERS ca 1600-

F Elizabeth TRAVERS

M Richard TRAVERS

M Augustine TRAVERS

M Alexander TRAVERS

M Roger TRAVERS

M Arthur TRAVERS.

 

Children:

  1.        i.     Worthington5 Brice Gent. b. 1586.

 

 

Generation Five

 

  1. Worthington5 Brice Gent. (Hugh4, Hugh3, Peter2, John1), b. 1586 in Dinnington, Somerset, England, d. 14 Mar 1649 in Dinnington, Somerset, England. Marriage to Joan Every is noted in Visitation of Somerset in 1623.

 

Sources: The National Archives – +44 20 8876 3444 – Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU United Kingdom – Prerogative Court of Canterbury – _UID: C74376A6-7EBB-424A-9EF2-5E04979B3281 _UPD: 01 NOV 2012 12:00:11 GMT+-0 – PROB 11/212 – Sep 1649 – TRANSCRIPTION 1649 Will of Worthington BRICE Gent of Dinnington d 1649 REF: PCC PROB 11/212 IN THE NAME OF GOD AMEN I Worthington BRICE of Dinnington in the County of Somerset Gentleman being sick of body but of perfect memory All praise be given unto Almighty God this xxxxxx the third Day of September Anno Domini one thousand six hundred and forty nine do make and ordain this my last will and testament in manner and form following First I commend my soul into the hands of Almighty God my maker hoping through the merits death and passion of my only Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ to be saved and my body to Christian burial Item I give unto my son Hugh BRICE one hundred pounds to be paid unto him within two years next after my decease Item I give unto my daughters Elizabeth ,Margaret and Dorothy to each of them the sum of one hundred pounds to be paid unto them likewise within two years next from my decease. Item I give unto my said daughter Dorothy my xxx xxxx xxxx Item all the rest of my goods and chattels as well moveable as unmoveable and not hereby by me given or bequeathed I do give and bequeath unto my loving wife Joan whom I do make and ordain my sole Executrix of this my last will and testament And I xxxxx to my loving friends John HODGE and Richard HODGE sons of Humphrey HODGE of Crewkerne Gent to be supervisors of this my said will requesting them to see the same fulfilled In witness whereof I have unto this my present will set my hand and seal and do publish the same in the presence of those whose names are hereunder written xxxx xxxx to be witness hereunto Wor. BRICE xxxxx hereunto Christopher LEGG George LEGG signed Edward HOUSE signed George STONEHOUSE PROBATUM 8 June 1650 Joanne BRICE.

 

He was married to Joan Every, in 1608 in Whitchurch Canonicorum, Dorset, England. Joan: Daughter of John Every of Wycroft, Devon.

JOAN BRICE, of Dinnington, Somerset, widow. Will dated Sep. 16,1663, proved July 21, 1664. [Taunton Registry.] To my son Hugh Brice, two mills, out of which to my daughter Margaret, £8, to be paid to her in the porch of Dinnington Church. My daughter Dorothy Poole & John Poole her husband. My sons Worthington Brice & John Brice. To my daughter Margaret £16o above what was given her by her father.

 

Children:

  1.              John6 Brice b. c. 1620,[ii] d. post 1663.
  2.             Worthington Brice b. c. 1623, d. post 1663.

iii.   Joan Brice b. 1609, d. 1638.

  1.            Elizabeth Brice.
  2.        v.    Hugh Brice Gent. b. c. 1631.
  3.            Margaret Brice b. 1629, d. post 1663.

vii.  Dorothy Brice d. post 1663.

 

She was married to John Poole.

 

 

Generation Six

 

  1. Hugh6 Brice Gent. (Worthington5, Hugh4, Hugh3, Peter2, John1), b. c. 1631, d. 1703 in Crewkerne, Somerset, England,[iii] buried 19 Oct 1703 in Crewkerne, Somerset, England,3 resided in Crewkerne, Somerset, England.[iv] Date of marriage fits with birth year of son, Peter, and Peter named a daughter “Grace”.

1688         Hugh Brice aged 57 of Crewkerne in Chancery Depositions before 1714.

 

He was married to Grace (maiden name unknown) Brice, in 1672 in Seavington, Somerset, England.

 

Children:

  1.        i.     Thomas7 Brice b. 1672.
  2.             Mary Brice. In marriage record Mary is listed as a “widow” but is listed under maiden name.

 

She was married to Benjamin Keech, on 2 Nov 1725 in Netherbury, Dorset, England.[v]

 

  1.        iii.   Sarah Brice.
  2.      iv.   Peter Brice M.A. b. c. 1673.
  3.             Joan Brice b. 1674.
  4.            Hugh Brice d. 1685 in Crewkerne, Somerset, England.[vi] Listed as “son of Mr. Hugh” Brice in burial record.

 

 

Generation Seven

 

  1. Thomas7 Brice (Hugh6, Worthington5, Hugh4, Hugh3, Peter2, John1), b. 1672.

 

He was married to Mrs. Thomas Brice.

 

Children:

  1.      i.     Thomas8 Brice b. 1696.

 

  1. Sarah7 Brice (Hugh6, Worthington5, Hugh4, Hugh3, Peter2, John1).

 

She was married to Gillet Snook, on 15 Aug 1715 in Netherbury, Dorset, England.5

 

Children:

  1.              Brice8 Snook b. 1716, d. 1716.
  2.             Mary Snook b. 1717.

 

  1. Peter7 Brice M.A. (Hugh6, Worthington5, Hugh4, Hugh3, Peter2, John1), b. c. 1673 in Crewkerne, Somerset, England,4 d. 30 Jul 1740 in Netherbury, Dorset, England,[vii] occupation Minister; Vicar of Netherbury, Dorset, England,[viii] buried 4 Aug 1740 in Netherbury, Dorset, England.5 1673   Peter Brice baptised at Crewkerne son of Hugo Brice.

 

Brice, Peter, s. Hugh, of Crewkherne, Somerset, gent. Wadham Coll., matric 7 April, 1690, aged 17; B.A. from New Inn Hall 8 March, 1693-4, incorp. at Cambridge 1708, and M.A. from Peter House 1708, vicar of Worth Matravers 1696, rector of Church Knowle 1708, and vicar of Netherbury, Dorset, 1709.

Source: Oxford, University Of. Alumni Oxonienses. 1891. Reprint. London: Forgotten Books, 2013

 

There is a land record in 1725 for 500 acres in Pendomer, Somerset that is recorded as being owned by “Thomas Brice, Peter Brice, Jane wife of Thomas”. A later amendment has Peter scored out and “Son Thomas” added. I don’t know who this Thomas is.

 

 

 

Peter Brice, M.A., died July 30th, 1740, aged 70; he was

interred in Netherbury Church. A mural tablet there, in

the chancel, records he was for thirty years the Vicar.

 

He was married to Katherine Pocock, b. 1677, d. 1742 in Netherbury, Dorset, England,5 buried 21 Sep 1742 in Netherbury, Dorset, England.5 Katherine: She was mentioned in her husband’s will. There is also a mention of Rev. John Pocock, who I assume is probably her brother.

Burial record lists her as “widow”.

 

Children:

  1.              Elizabeth8 Brice b. 1711 in Netherbury, Dorset, England,[ix] baptized 25 Sep 1711 in Netherbury, Dorset, England.9
  2.             Grace Brice b. c. 1712 in Netherbury, Dorset, England,9 d. 1738 in Netherbury, Dorset, England,5 buried 27 Dec 1738 in Netherbury, Dorset, England.5
  3.      iii.   Margaret Brice b. 1713.
  4.            Ann Brice b. 1715 in Netherbury, Dorset, England,9 baptized 1 Oct 1715 in Netherbury, Dorset, England,9 d. 1730.
  5.             Hugh (Rev.) Brice b. 1719 in Netherbury, Dorset, England,9 baptized 1719 in Netherbury, Dorset, England,9 d. 1793 in Crewkerne, Somerset, England,[x] buried 10 Jan 1793 in Netherbury, Dorset, England.5 It seems as if Hugh may have been his grandfather, Hugh Brice of Crewkerne’s, heir.

 

Hugh Brice, son of Peter, matriculated at Oxford 5 Dec 1738, age 19.

 

In 1741 Rev. Hugh Brice of Netherbury, Dorset subscribed to a collection of sermons.

 

 

Generation Eight

 

  1. Thomas8 Brice (Thomas7, Hugh6, Worthington5, Hugh4, Hugh3, Peter2, John1), b. 1696, d. 1751 in Misterton, Somerset, England, resided in Misterton, Somerset, England, occupation Clotheir. 1751 : Will – Misterton, Somerset, England

Sources: D/BGL/D29 Dorset Record Office – Will of Thomas Brice of Misterton, Somerset, serge-maker, made in 1751, in which he divised Abbots-hill tenement in Pendomer, Somerset to his wife, Jane.

 

He was married to Jane (Maiden name unknown) Brice.

 

Children:

  1.              Thomas9 Brice.
  2.             Hugh Brice.

iii.   Hugh Brice.

  1.            Worthington Brice b. 1726, d. 1784 in Crewkerne, Somerset, England, buried 20 Apr 1784 in Crewkerne, Somerset, England. Burial record lists Worthington as being 58 years old at time of death.

 

He was married to Elizabeth Smith, in 1755.

 

  1. Margaret8 Brice (Peter7, Hugh6, Worthington5, Hugh4, Hugh3, Peter2, John1), b. 1713 in Netherbury, Dorset, England,9 baptized 22 Feb 1713 in Netherbury, Dorset, England,9 d. pre 1761. I can’t find marriage for Margaret and John yet, however at the time of her father’s death in 1640, she did not seem to be married yet. I based marriage on that and age of first child.

 

Margaret’s children John White, Margaret White and Elenaor White Rundle are mentioned in her brother, Hugh Brice’s, will in 1793. Margaret is listed as his “late sister” at that time.

 

I had originally thought that the wife of Rev. John White was “Eleanor”. In “The Hole Story”, Richard Crow named her as “Eleanor White” like her daughter, however the will referenced above makes it clear that her name was Margaret.

 

I could not find a burial for Margaret in either Pillaton or St. Neot.

 

She was married to John (Rev) White, on c. 1742, b. 1673, d. 1759 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England,[xi] buried 8 Dec 1759 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England,11 occupation Vicar of Pillaton.[xii] John: According to Richard Crow, this was a prosperous family, a part of which had come to St. Neot to settle at Woodland.

 

John’s children were all baptized in Lanteglos by Camelford, Cornwall between 1744 and 1747. He may have been vicar there before moving to Pillaton.

St. Julitta is the parish church for Lanteglos by Camelford.

 

John was the Rector at Pillaton from 1746 to 1758.

Burial record says “The Rev’d John White”.

 

Children:

  1.      i.     Eleanor9 White b. 1744.
  2.      ii.    John White b. 1745.

iii.   Margaret White b. 1747 in Lanteglos by Camelford, Cornwall, England,9 baptized 21 Sep 1747 in Lanteglos by Camelford, Cornwall, England,9 d. post 1793. Margaret was mentioned in her uncle, Hugh Brice’s, will in 1793. She is listed as Margaret , formerly White, wife of Edward ___? I can’t read his name.

  1.            Jerome White b. 1747 in Lanteglos by Camelford, Cornwall, England,9 baptized 21 Sep 1747 in Lanteglos by Camelford, Cornwall, England,9 d. 1751 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England,11 buried 14 Aug 1751 in Pillaton, Cornwall, England.11

 

 

Generation Nine

 

  1. Eleanor9 White (Margaret8, Peter7, Hugh6, Worthington5, Hugh4, Hugh3, Peter2, John1), b. 1744 in Lanteglos by Camelford, Cornwall, England,9 baptized 7 Jul 1744 in Lanteglos by Camelford, Cornwall, England,9 d. 10 Oct 1808 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,12 buried 18 Oct 1808 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG.[xiii] Could be the Eleanor Rundle bur. in St. Neot 10 Oct 1808. In Richard’s Crow’s reasearch, she is listed as “daughter of John White, Vicar of Pillaton”.

 

She was married to John “Gent” Rundle, on 14 Apr 1761 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 b. c.1733 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,[xiv] (son of Jonathan “of Hole and Pengelly” Rundle [1676 – 1740] and Jane Rowe [1710 – 1788]), baptized 3 Feb 1736 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,14 d. 12 Feb 1806 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,[xv],[xvi],10 buried 17 Feb 1806 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 resided “Little Gent” in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG.15 John: Witnesses to marriage of John and Eleanor were Charles Danger and Millicent Thomas. The couple were married by Banns which were read March 15, 22 and 29th.

 

In 1793’s “Survey of St. Neot” it appears that the Rundle family owned or leased properties that totalled nineteen, with total acreage of five hundred and thirty. In addition, they ahd interests in nine separate cottages. The farms were Coomhouse, Hambly’s Hill, Hobbs, Jenkins Tenement, Lakesyeat, Ley, Higher Lestow, Lower Lestow, East Lewarne, Pengelly, Higher Polscopp, Lower Polscopp, North Polmenna, South Polmenna, Trebinnick, Tredinnick, Trewindle, Tupton and Hole.

 

This is probably the John referenced in Nominations of Gamekeepers: 27 Oct. 1758; Lord of the Manor and Manor/s: Francis Gregor of Trewarthenick, esq. Warleggan; Gamekeeper: John Rundle of Hole, St Neot, gent.; 27 Oct. 1758; Lord of the Manor and Manor/s: Francis Gregor of Trewarthenick, esq. Warleggan; Gamekeeper: John Rundle of Hole, St Neot, gent.; 12 Jan. 1767; Lord of manor and Manor/s: William Morshead, esq. Trevego & St Neot Barrett; Gamekeeper: John Rundle, gent., of St Neot

 

Obituary says that John “was beloved and respected by all who knew him, particularly the poor of that neighborhood, to whom he was a most charitable friend”.

Obit says that he was 73 yrs old, so there is the possibility that he was baptized at age 3.

Sons Jonathan and Brice were his heirs with note that “widow having renounced her right”.

 

Children:

  1.              John “of Hole and Gent”10 Rundle b. 1762 in St. Neot, Cornwall, England,12 baptized 25 Feb 1762 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 resided Hole Farm in St. Neot, Cornwall, England, d. 1811 in Tintinhull, Somerset, Eng,12,13 buried 15 Jul 1811 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG.12,13 It is likely that John took over Hole before his father’s death. It is also likely that he was sent earlier to Tintinhull, near Yeovil to learn more about leatherworking. That area of Somerset was well known as a center for glovemaking and other leatherwork. He married his wife there. At the time of marriage, John was listed as being of “St. Neot” parish and Mary was “of Tintinhull”. They were married by license. Witnesses were Edward Tucker and John Bate.

 

I can’t find a record for any more children than just the one son, John, for this couple.

 

By 1809, John was listed in a deed as being “of Tintinhull”. Lease and release, Dangars alias Helman’s Tenement, ST NEOT

23-24 Jun 1809 Parties: 1) WILLIAM PEARSE, gentleman of Halwell, Davidstow 2) Thomas Rickard, gentleman of Trehane, Trevalga, and Thomas Rickard, younger, Gentleman of Trehane, Trevalga 3) John Rundle, gentleman, of Tintinhull, Somerset, and John Rundle, youngger, gentleman, of Tintinhull, Somerset 4) Edward Hawke, tailor of Bodmin 5) Mary White, widow of Liskeard 6) Thomas Pomery, of St Neot 7) James Cook, mason of St Neot 8) PETER DAVY, yeoman of St Neot, trustee of James Cooke. Lease by 7) to 1) to 5) of Dangars alias Helmen’s Tenement, St Neot occupied by party 8). Consideration: £220.

 

In an article after his death (referenced below), a farm owned by John in Somersetshire is mentioned. In the article witnesses mentioned that , up until the last 6 years of his life, John Rundle spent 8 months out of 12 in Somerset. In those years just before his death, he “spent more time in Cornwall”.

 

After John’s death, there was a long account in the newspaper of a lawsuit brought against an insurance agent who refused to pay a policy that John had taken out. The insurance agent claimed that John had lied about his health, but there were many witnesses who testified to the fact that at the time the policy was purchased in 1809, John was in good health. This included the Rundle family surgeon of many years, Mr. Pedler. Other witnesses from Somerset said that John was “habitually drunk”. The jury found for the plaintiff saying that the insurance should be paid.

 

An 1842 map shows that of the properties owned or leased by the Rundles in 1793, only Hole, Tupton, Ley, Trebinnick, Higher and Lower Hobbs and Trewindle remained to John Rundle of Hole. And John Rundle of the “other section” of the family retained only Lower Tredinnick.

 

He was married to Mary Pudden, on 5 Jun 1784 in St. Margaret, Tintinhull, Somerset, Eng,[xvii] b. c. 1755,[xviii] d. 1824 in Tintinhull, Somerset, England, buried 12 May 1824 in St. Margaret, Tintinhull, Somerset, England.18 Mary: There is a death for a Mary Pudden in Tintinhull in April 1783. Could be Mary’s mother. She was the wife of Richard.

Richard was buried 9 May 1785, age 71. (b. 1714)

There is a baptism record for a Richard Pudding on 6 Jan 1714 in East Coker, Somerset, England. Father was Will Pudding.

 

Mary was “of Tintinhull” at time of marriage.

She was age 69 at the time of her death.

 

  1.             Jonathan “of Pengelly” Rundle b. 1768 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 baptized 18 Oct 1768 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 d. 1821 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 buried 3 Apr 1821 to St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG.14 Couple were married by Banns. Witnesses were Thomas Hillman and William Henwood.

There is a Hugh Rundle, bp 12 Apl 1802 in Broadoak, son of Jonathan and Eleanor. Is this son of this family?

Jonathan’s burial record lists him as age 55 and “of Pengelly”.

 

Bargain and sale in Manor of Manelly, St. Veep

Sir Wm. Carew of Antony, bart., to Jonathan Rundle of St. Neot., yeo.

Hawkyn’s Wood.

Date:           2 Apr. 1711

 

Lease for 99 years.

Jn. Moyle of Bake, Esq., to Jonathan Rundle of St. Neot, yeoman.

Pengelly.

Date:           13 June 1738

 

Lease for 14 years (also counterpart).

Francis Gregor Esq., to Jonathan and Brice Rundle, both of St. Neot, gents.

Pengelly barton.

Date:           31 Oct. 1806.

 

He was married to Eleanor Henwood, on 9 Dec 1794 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,14,13 b. 1769 in England,[xix] baptized 30 Jan 1769, d. Aug 1854 in Baltimore, MD, US,12 buried 5 Aug 1854 in Mt. Olivet, Baltimore, Maryland, US.[xx] Eleanor: Witnesses for the marriage of Eleanor and Jonathan were William Henwood and Thomas Hillman.

The couple were married by Banns.

Eleanor was in Baltimore, Maryland by 1829 when she is listed on “Letters Waiting” list in newspaper.

In 1850, Eleanor, widowed, was listed as “blind” and living with son William and his family in Baltimore, Maryland.

 

iii.   Elizabeth White Rundle b. 1771 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 baptized 13 Mar 1771 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 d. Jan 1842 in Fowey, Cornwall, England.[xxi] Marriage also recorded at Lanteglos-By-Fowey,

In 1841 Elizabeth was a widow, living in Fowey. Her daughters, Maria and Louisa, were living with her. Her granddaughter, Elizabeth Rundle, was also living with her.

 

She was married to John Cossentine, on 4 May 1791 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13,[xxii] b. 1759 in St. Veep, Cornwall, Eng,9 (son of Henry Cossentine [1723 – 1778] and Mary Rundle [1729 – 1813]), baptized 12 Dec 1759 in St. Veep, Cornwall, Eng,9 d. Apr 1826 in Trevedda, Lanteglos, Cornwall, Eng,[xxiii] buried 5 Apr 1826 in St. Veep, Cornwall, England.23 John: Known as “John of Trevedda”.

At time of marriage both John and Elizabeth were listed as being “of this parish” (St. Neot)

Couple were married by Banns and “with consent of parents”. Witnesses were J. Rundle and Phillip Hillman.

 

Trevedda Farm is located just south east of St. Veep.

 

  1.            Jeremiah Brice (Esq) Rundle b. 1772 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,[xxiv],13 baptized 22 Jun 1772 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,[xxv] d. 10 Oct 1848 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,[xxvi],13 buried 14 Oct 1848 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13,20 occupation Farmer,[xxvii] resided ST. Neot Village in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG.24 The couple was married by Banns. Elizabeth was Jeremiah’s first cousin, the daughter of his mother’s brother.

 

In 1817 family is listed as living at Lanivet.

 

In 1823, Jeremiah was listed as tenant “now and for several years past” at Tremeer, situated in Lanivet. The property consisted of “commodious Dwelling-house, Garden, Barn, Stables, Machine House and all other convenient Outbuildings and two hundred and eleven Acres, three Roods and thirty eight perches of most excellent Arable, Meadow and Pasture Land. Jeremiah also seemed to be tenent on adjoing property called Lanivet Cross Parks and a field of land named “The Square Neck”. The property was all for sale.

 

The Tremeer (Tremere) property was owned by the Tremere family in the 1400s and then by John Courteney in the 1500s. Upon his death in 1560 , he left a life interest in the Tremere property to his widow, who later married Thomas Arundell. Their son, Richard Courteney lived there from late 1500s to early 1600s. In 1846, Tremere was owned by Mr. Hoblyn of Colquite.

 

In 1841, Jeremiah, Elizabeth and daughter, Maria are listed as living in St. Neot Village. Jeremiah is listed as being age 60, which doesn’t match birth year.

Cause of death was listed as “paralysis”.

 

He was married to Elizabeth White, on 25 May 1805 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 b. 1786 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13,[xxviii],20 (daughter of John White [1745 – 1795] and Mary Pomery [1744 – 1829]), baptized 22 Oct 1786 in St. Neot, Cornwall,25 d. 12 Apr 1870 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,26,13,20 buried 16 Apr 1870 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG.26,13 Elizabeth: In 1861, Elizabeth, age 75, was living with daughter Maria and her husband, Samuel Short, in Fowey.

Age 85 at time of death. She was listed as living at Fowey. Cause of death was Apoplexy.

 

  1.             Brice Rundle b. 1774 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 baptized 31 Oct 1774 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13,9 d. 7 July 1841 in Fowey, Cornwall, Eng,26,13 buried 10 Jul 1841 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG.13 Lease for 14 years (also counterpart).

Francis Gregor Esq., to Jonathan and Brice Rundle, both of St. Neot, gents.

Pengelly barton.

Date:           31 Oct. 1806

 

In 1841, Brice, age 65, lived in Fowey. His niece, Mary Davey, age 30, living with him.

 

Headstone read “Brice Rundle, late of Linkindale…age 66 years”.

  1.            Eleanor Rundle b. 1776 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 baptized 15 Oct 1776 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,12 buried 20 Jan 1832 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,12,13 d. 17 Jan 1832 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG.23 “of Fawey”. She was age 55 at the time of her death.

vii.  Hugh Brice Rundle b. 1778 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,[xxix],13 baptized 3 Dec 1778 in St. Neot, Cornwall, d. 1859 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 buried 22 Jul 1859 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 resided Ley; Pengelly in St. Neot, Cornwall,24,13,29 occupation Farmer; Agr. Laborer.25,27 Witnesses to Hugh and Eleanor’s marriage were John Dumble and John Lobb. The couple was married by License.

Family lived in Pengelly at time of children’s births.

 

 

On 29 May 1809 a Lease was granted for 11 years from Francis Gregor Esq., to Hugh Rundle of St. Neot, gent. Property as G/20 in Manor of Pengelly.

 

 

In 1831, there is a newspaper ad offering Pengelly and Treney for let for a term of 14 years each.. It lists Hugh Brice Rundle as occupying Pengelly and Mr. John Cawrse as occupying Treney. Pengelly was described as being comprised of a good Farm House, Barn, Stables and other Outhouses and about 144 acres of Land.

 

In 1841 the family was living at Ley.

In 1845 there is a notice in the newspaper for the lease of Hole, Tupton and Ley which at the time was occupied by Thomas Lobb. It is described as being comprised of a good and convenient Farm House with Barn, Stables and other out houses adn about 107 acres of superior Orchard, Meadow and Arable and Pasture Land.

Also listed was a farm called “Trebinick” occupied by Matthew Crapp. It was comprised of a dwelling house, barn and other agricultural buildings and about 124 acres of good arrable and pasture land. The properties were to be let either together or separately. Potential renters could view the properties by contacting Hugh Rundle of Ley.

 

In 1851, Hugh was a widower, living in Ley with his daugher, Elizabeth age 22. They lived next door to son, Hugh.

 

Cause of death was listed as “Dropsey”, Edema [swelling], often caused by kidney or heart disease.

 

He was married to Eleanor Lobb, on 8 Feb 1810 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 b. 1791 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 (daughter of John Lobb [1766 – 1858] and Eleanor White [1771 – 1850]), baptized 1 May 1791 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,[xxx] d. 1847 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,15,13 buried 25 Jun 1848 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 resided Ley Village in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG.24 Eleanor: Eleanor is age 50 in 1841 Census.

Cause of death was “consumption”.

 

Inscription on Eleanor’s headstone:

Reader who ‘eer thou art

That deign’st to stray

Thy wandering steps

Near this mouldering clay.

Keep death and judgement

Always in your eye.

None are fit to live.

None are fit to die.

Make use of present time

Because you must take lodging

Shortly in the dust.

Tis dreadful to behold

The setting sun and night

Approaching ‘er your work

Is done.

 

viii. Mary Ann Rundle b. 1780 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,[xxxi],29 baptized 7 Nov 1780 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 d. 14 Mar 1855 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 buried 19 Mar 1855 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 resided Lewarne in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG.31,29 At the time of her death from “apoplexy”, she lived at Higher Hayden in Lewarne.

 

She was married to Peter Davey, on 7 Feb1807 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,12,13 b. c. 1780 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,31,29 d. 13 Jun 1860 in St. Neot, Corwnall, England,12,20 buried 16 June 1860 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 resided Lewarne in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,24,13 occupation Farmer.13 Peter: Son of John Davey and Mary Bawden.

The couple was married by License. Witnesses were John Dumble and Simon Lander.

There were two other “Peter and Mary’s” in St. Neot at the same time, however I have doubled checked the list of children, based on mother’s name being listed as “Mary Ann” vs just “Mary” and /or other connections proving the children were of this family.

Family lived at Lewarne during early 1800’s when children were born.

In 1828 family is listed as living in Trevarbye.

In 1841, Peter and Mary lived at “Eden” , very near Lewarne.

In 1851, Mary Ann’s great nephew, John Rundle, age 13, was living with the family.

At the time of his death, Peter was listed as living at Trethamp in St. Cleer.

Cause of death was “natural decay”.

 

  1. John9 White (Margaret8, Peter7, Hugh6, Worthington5, Hugh4, Hugh3, Peter2, John1), b. 1745 in Lanteglos by Camelford, Cornwall, England,9 baptized 16 Jan 1745 in Lanteglos by Camelford, Cornwall, England,9 d. 1795 in St. Neot, Cornwall, England,13 buried 26 Jan 1795 in St. Neot, Cornwall, England,13 resided in St. Neot, Cornwall, England.13 The couple was married by License. Witnesses were John Parson and Phillip Hillman.

 

He was married to Mary Pomery, on 11 Sep 1769 in St. Neot, Cornwall, England,13 b. c. 1744,13,20 d. 1829 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13,20 buried 10 Jul 1829 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG.13 Mary: Mary (Pomery) White was age 84 at the time of her death at Treddinick.

 

Children:

  1.              John10 White b. c. 1772 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,29 baptized 8 Jan 1773 in St. Neot, Cornwall,13 d. 1857 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 buried 4 Feb 1857 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 resided Trenay in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG.13 In 1851, John was unmarried, age 79 and living with “cousins” , Jeremiah Rundle and his wife Mary in St. Neot.
  2.             Mary White b. c. 1775 in St. Neot, Cornwall, England,13 baptized 28 Jul 1775 in St. Neot, Cornwall, England,25 d. 1776 in St. Neot, Cornwall, England,13 buried 21 Nov 1776 in St. Neot, Cornwall, England.13

iii.   Thomas Pomerey White b. c. 1779 in St. Neot, Cornwall, England,13 baptized 5 Jan 1779 in St. Neot, Cornwall, England,25 d. Aug 1779 in St. Neot, Cornwall, England,13 buried 18 Aug 1779 in St. Neot, Cornwall, England.13 There is a second Thomas Pomery White buried 5 Aug 1781.

  1.            Hugh Brice (Capt.) White b. c. 1780 in St. Neot, Cornwall, England,13 baptized 18 Dec 1780 in St. Neot, Cornwall, England,13 d. 21 Sep 1847, buried 24 Sep 1847 in Galway, Ireland, resided in Galway, Ireland, occupation Coast Guard Inspector; Royal Navy. The couple were married by License. The witnesses were Caroline and Elizabeth Michell.

 

Kilrush, County Clare: Notes from c 1760 to 1960 by Senan Scanlan

Kilrush Notes 1764-1859

1857 4th June (CJ).

The Constabulary: Hugh Westropp White Esq, of Kilrush in the County of Clare, son of the late Captain White R.N., has been appointed to a cadetship in the constabulary by his Excellency the Lord Lieutenant in consideration of the valuable services rendered by the late Captain White (when commanding the coastguard at Galway) to the people in the famine year of 1847. The deceased sudden death was caused by his anxiety and toil in that distressing period. His name will be long remembered by the Claddagh fishermen and the poor of Galway. The Earl of Carlisle in making the appointment also rewards the son of one who distinguished himself in several engagements under Lord Nelson. —.

 

He was married to (1) Catherine Michell, on 19 Apr 1817 in “All Saints”, Langport, Somerset, Eng.[xxxii]

He was married to (2) Sarah Isabella Westrop, on 28 Jul 1828 in Galway, Ireland, b. 1809 in Fortanne, Co. Clare, Ireland, d. May 1884, buried 1884 in Kilrush, Co. Clare, Ireland.

 

  1.             Mary Pomery White b. c. 1784 in St. Neot, Cornwall, England,13 baptized 2 Jan 1784 in St. Neot, Cornwall, England.13
  2.            Thomas Adolph White b. c. 1785 in St. Neot, Cornwall, England,13,[xxxiii],[xxxiv],[xxxv],[xxxvi] baptized 27 Feb 1785 in St. Neot, Cornwall, England,13 d. 1871 in St. Austell, Cornwall, England,[xxxvii] occupation Farmer,34 resided in Luxulyan, Cornwall, England.35 In 1841, 1851 and 1861, Thomas and Grace lived in Luxulyan, Cornwall.

In 1851, daughter Mary, age 27, lived with them.

In 1871, Thomas was a widower living with widowed daughter, Emeline, in St. Austell.

 

He was married to Grace Cole Grose, on 27 Nov 1819 in Lanivet, Cornwall, England,22 b. c. 1795 in Lanivet, Cornwall, England,33,34,35 baptized 08 Dec 1795 in Lanivet, Cornwall, England,9 d. pre 1871. Grace: Daughter of Nicholas and Judith Grose.

 

vii.  Elizabeth White b. 1786 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13,28,20 baptized 22 Oct 1786 in St. Neot, Cornwall,25 d. 12 Apr 1870 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,26,13,20 buried 16 Apr 1870 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG.26,13 In 1861, Elizabeth, age 75, was living with daughter Maria and her husband, Samuel Short, in Fowey.

Age 85 at time of death. She was listed as living at Fowey. Cause of death was Apoplexy.

 

She was married to Jeremiah Brice (Esq) Rundle, on 25 May 1805 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 b. 1772 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,24,13 (son of John “Gent” Rundle [1733 – 1806] and Eleanor White [1744 – 1808]), baptized 22 Jun 1772 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,25 d. 10 Oct 1848 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,26,13 buried 14 Oct 1848 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13,20 occupation Farmer,27 resided ST. Neot Village in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG.24 Jeremiah: The couple was married by Banns. Elizabeth was Jeremiah’s first cousin, the daughter of his mother’s brother.

 

In 1817 family is listed as living at Lanivet.

 

In 1823, Jeremiah was listed as tenant “now and for several years past” at Tremeer, situated in Lanivet. The property consisted of “commodious Dwelling-house, Garden, Barn, Stables, Machine House and all other convenient Outbuildings and two hundred and eleven Acres, three Roods and thirty eight perches of most excellent Arable, Meadow and Pasture Land. Jeremiah also seemed to be tenent on adjoing property called Lanivet Cross Parks and a field of land named “The Square Neck”. The property was all for sale.

 

The Tremeer (Tremere) property was owned by the Tremere family in the 1400s and then by John Courteney in the 1500s. Upon his death in 1560 , he left a life interest in the Tremere property to his widow, who later married Thomas Arundell. Their son, Richard Courteney lived there from late 1500s to early 1600s. In 1846, Tremere was owned by Mr. Hoblyn of Colquite.

 

In 1841, Jeremiah, Elizabeth and daughter, Maria are listed as living in St. Neot Village. Jeremiah is listed as being age 60, which doesn’t match birth year.

Cause of death was listed as “paralysis”.

 

viii. Sophia White b. c, 1787 in St. Neot, Cornwall, England,13 baptized 14 Oct 1787 in St. Neot, Cornwall, England,13 d. Nov 1806 in St. Neot, Cornwall, England,13,20 buried 19 Nov 1806 in St. Neot, Cornwall, England.13

  1.            William White b. 1789 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13,[xxxviii],[xxxix],[xl] baptized 13 Apl 1789 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,25 d. post 1861, resided in Charles, Devon, England,40 occupation Lieutenant in Royal Marines.40 In 1841, the family lived at St. Heliers, Jersey, Channel Islands.

Based on the birthplaces of their children, the family seems to have moved to Jersey sometime around 1837.

In 1851, The family lived at St. Brelade, Jersey, Channel Islands. Only Julia, James and Frederick lived with William and Mary at that time.

In 1861 William, Mary and daughter, Julia, lived at Charles the Martyr, Devon, England. William was on “half pay” at that time.

 

He was married to Mary Blackmore, on 24 May 1826 in Cheriton, Devonshire, England,22 b. c. 1801 in Cheriton, Devonshire, England.38,39,40

 

  1.             Eleanor White b. c. 1771 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,33 baptized 8 May 1771 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 d. 13 Nov 1850. In 1841, Eleanor is age 70, was visiting her daughter Sophia and her family in Luxulyan.

 

She was married to John Lobb, on 8 Dec 1788 in St. Neot, Cornwall,[xli],13 b. 1766 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13,29,31 (son of William Lobb [1743 –     ] and Susannah Henwood [1746 – 1797]), baptized 14 Oct 1766 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,14,41 d. 1858 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 buried 12 Mar 1858 in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,13 resided Trenay in St. Neot, Cornwall, ENG,24 occupation Farmer.24 John: The couple was married by Banns and “with consent of parents”. Witnesses were Simon Lander and John Mares.

In 1841 and 1851, John was a widower, age 85, living with his son, John and wife Mary.

 

[i] England & Wales, Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills 1384-1858.

[ii] The Visitation of Somerset; 1623.

[iii] England Select Death and Burials 1538-1991.

[iv] Oxford, University Of. Alumni Oxonienses., 1891. Reprint. London: Forgotten Books, 2013.

[v] Dorset, England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812.

[vi] Parish Registers for Crewkerne, Somerset, England.

[vii] Richard Hine, The History of Beaminster.

[viii] Parish Printout Braunton, Devon, England; 1538-1812; Baptisms.

[ix] England Select Birth and Christenings 1538 – 1975.

[x] Wills : National Archive Download.

[xi] Parish Registers for Pillaton, Cornwall, England.

[xii] Richard Crow, The Hole Story: The History of a Cornish House , Self Published; 1996, Based on extensive research including: Parish Registers; Cornwall Diocesan Records (vital wills and inventories for probate), Manorial Records, National Census, Deeds to property of Hole, interviews with relatives of past owners and neighbors and misc documents.

[xiii] Parish Registers for St. Neot, Liskeard, Cornwall, Eng.

[xiv] Bishops Transcripts for St. Neot, Liskeard, Cornwall, Eng.

[xv] Research by Arthur Runnells;.

[xvi] Obituary (newspaper clipping).

[xvii] Tintinhull, Somerset, England: Parish Register Transcriptions.

[xviii] England & Wales: National Burial Index for England & Wales Transcription.

[xix] 1850 US Census for Baltimore, MD.

[xx] FindaGrave.com: Collection of Headstone Inscriptions and Photos.

[xxi] England & Wales Death Registration Index: 1837-2007.

[xxii] England Select Marriages 1538-1973.

[xxiii] Cornwall Memorial Inscriptions Transcriptions.

[xxiv] 1841 UK Census for Liskeard, Cornwall.

[xxv] St.Neot Parish Records; Church of England & Ireland; Bapt. 1549-1837. 1593-1600 Missing.

[xxvi] Headstone Inscriptions, Research by Mary in Cornwall, England; 2002.

[xxvii] Cornwall Online Census Project—1841 , Transcript of Piece HO107/153 (St Neot) COCP code 153294.

[xxviii] 1861 UK Census for Fowey, Cornwall, England.

[xxix] 1851 UK Census for St. Neot, Cornwall, Eng.

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[xxxi] 1841 UK Census for St. Neot, Cornwall, Eng.

[xxxii] Bishop’s Transcripts for All Saints, Langport, Somerset.

[xxxiii] 1841 UK Census for Luxulyan, Cornwall, Eng.

[xxxiv] 1851 UK Census for Luxulyan, Cornwall, Eng.

[xxxv] 1861 UK Census for Luxulyan, Cornwall, Eng.

[xxxvi] 1871 UK Census for St. Austell, Cornwall, Eng.

[xxxvii] England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983 Record.

[xxxviii] 1841 Channel Islands Census for Jersey.

[xxxix] 1851 Channel Island Census for Jersey.

[xl] 1861 UK Census for Charles the Martyr, Devon, England.

[xli] Douglas V. Lobb,, 20000 Lobbs Around the World. (2 vols.), Moresk House, Truro, Cornwall (1997).